There will never be a general consensus when it pertains to multi/non-multi, only mitigation of the impact in the wilderness by restricting amount of IPs (in this case 2ips). The poll clearly showed a wide margin favoring 1ip > 2ip, but to no surprise this "trial period" was introduced despite public opinion overwhelmingly voted for 1 IP. Basically they got strong-armed by a loud minority of village people on Discord who are unable to express an adequate logical thought process without going into a temper tantrum and blackmailing to quit the server. Favoritism and double standards practice are clearly evident for certain clan and people.

In addition, pls spare me the BS about "pkers only poll" - if 2ip had won, the shadow poll would have been made publicly. There is no justification for lack of transparency.

Poll tally: 74-21 -> you would have to remove >50 votes favoring 2 IP forts to make the secondary poll a favorite 1 IP. This isn't neurosurgery; it's common sense they don't care about the public majority.

[*][/*]Additionally, if you wanted to draw more skillers and new players into the pking scene wouldn't you also want to include their opinion about the Fort System? Why disregard their vote? What sort of logic is this? Do you want to turn them away from pking by only favoring a small minority?

"Multi doesn't always mean unfair. By the same token, 1ip/1client pking doesn't always mean fair, either.
I say this because I hear feedback from both sides of the fence condemning the other method of pking but neither is "the right way"...if that makes sense.

- I agree that people will never come to a general consensus about this. However, the fort system is only one component of the wilderness, everywhere else is multi pking.
- People aren't multing the traditional way. There are people who train and share excessive amounts of accounts. This 2 IP fort system is essentially giving them a farming ground for resources, no different than the previous tower system rewarding these sort of individuals.
- This also means that old players who don't have a massive char list will have no chance of competing in a 2-IP fort system. Newer players obviously can't compete with this game mechanics either. We're all in our early 20s and God forbid everyone should make 100 flat chars to compete. Absolute nonsense.
- RSClassic had a population of thousands of people so multi wasn't that big of a logistical flawed compared to private server where the usual population ranges from 50-150 ppl. Therefore you can't objectively apply the same concept bc apples =/= oranges in terms of population demographic with regard to Rsclassic and private servers.

In addition, they seem to have completely missed a major factor: the RSCR economy.
[*][/*] They buffed fort NPCs drop.
[*][/*] With 2 IPs instead of 1IP, people can farm even more resources into the game.

My assumption is that they wanted to attract more people into the wilderness with these extra incentives in fort. However, with 2 IPs people can farm double the loots and those with shared char lists can easily camp multiple flats and take advantage of their numbers.

There will never be a general consensus given the the game mechanics currently implemented. 1IP people do not have the time, patience, or even technological capabilities (remember not all people play on PC, some play on mobile- GL 2-IP fort on that).

RSCRevolution is currently in a perpetual paradox where you can't please everyone. However, it's interesting they decided to favor the loud minority in this case.

It's okay though, border PK is still poppin. Come join us.

- Humans Best Pk.

Multi should be a bannable offense. F$%k cheaters! This game will NEVER grow if you cater to the veterans.

NO OTHER MMO ALLOWS THIS FOR A REASON.

~K!zL

There would be no economy on a server this small without the army of multi fishers, woodcutters, mob killers and miners.

Or I dunno do what other MMOs have done and actually just automate all Skilling so its 1 click instead of monotonous garbage?

~K!zL

Fort has been more active lately than almost ever before when it was 1IP, and 2IP is just fine, you can go in and fight 3vs6, 1vs3 and shit, and that's what we need since most of the people using fort won't PK unless they have the numbers advantage, i'd say that's what we need. Or make it 1IP and let's have 1 fight a day again, once both sides manage to spam every discord they're in to be able to get the matching numbers just so they can go out for 1 trip, to have the losing side gathering more people for the next 2 hours again lol

Multi should be a bannable offense. F$%k cheaters! This game will NEVER grow if you cater to the veterans.

NO OTHER MMO ALLOWS THIS FOR A REASON.

~K!zL

There would be no economy on a server this small without the army of multi fishers, woodcutters, mob killers and miners.

Or I dunno do what other MMOs have done and actually just automate all Skilling so its 1 click instead of monotonous garbage?

~K!zL

Most other MMOS suck and for this reason, because its too easy. They have pay to win and care more about graphics than gameplay... What the hell is the point in skilling if its 1 click easy crap? How is that an achievement? This is exactly why we still play 20 year old games like RSC because most of us here come from a time when you had to actually earn your way and it was fun. The real RSC was extremely hard and thats truly why we all loved it, some of us just cant seem to understand that... Rates were already highly altered because people have jobs and kids now but If this server listened completely to the things you rant about, it wouldve died years ago.

As I had put " At least having 4 uniques vs 2 uniques is actually a decent fight. If you take more than 5 minutes to regroup or bank/eat whatever after a char is killed so they have a chance to come back on 1 alt, that’s your own fault. At least it’s a real fight."

What the fuck are you even talking about? ok lets do it then

Me, Ronald, Donald, Djz vs you and I Death, theres a real fight lets arrange that.

As I had put " At least having 4 uniques vs 2 uniques is actually a decent fight. If you take more than 5 minutes to regroup or bank/eat whatever after a char is killed so they have a chance to come back on 1 alt, that’s your own fault. At least it’s a real fight."

What the fuck are you even talking about? ok lets do it then

Me, Ronald, Donald, Djz vs you and I Death, theres a real fight lets arrange that.

You know I'm saying what the pkrs have said. Im a skiller. Death is a skiller. Never said otherwise. You wanna come kill me on uniques, go right ahead. I'll die. No problem with that. I'm just providing a voice for the pkrs. What a team member does. Helps. Instead of bashing them man.

As I had put " At least having 4 uniques vs 2 uniques is actually a decent fight. If you take more than 5 minutes to regroup or bank/eat whatever after a char is killed so they have a chance to come back on 1 alt, that’s your own fault. At least it’s a real fight."

What the fuck are you even talking about? ok lets do it then

Me, Ronald, Donald, Djz vs you and I Death, theres a real fight lets arrange that.

He meant its only fair when he is on the side with 4 uniques obviously you silly goose.

If you wanna talk about what RSC was like that was a lifetime ago. There was no skilling in wild either. Jesus skillers are spoiled beyond belief. So entitled to getting more and more pixels without fighting back. And PKing in RSC, people had way slower internet. 98% of PKers were nowhere close to an average PKer in 2019... I mean U P K M E was considered the best PKer with PKing videos and you can see the videos on youtube, garbage by todays standards with a decent internet connection.

And about it being hard to use 2 clients to PK - well no shit, thats why its challenging. Humans, the highest char you ever log in is your level 46 tankmage. Stick to border Pking which takes absolutely no skill to master. If anything not having enough chars to multi could be a problem but even that could be solved in the future (hopefully). The state of wilderness is more active than its been for a while right now and its basically midsummer when PKing is always at its lowpoint.

Nah that's not what I was saying. The others have said they'd rather be taken 2 on 4 uniques. Being the 2. It was suggestions. You guys need to stop being butt hurt about everything.

Not butthurt just seen all the "skiller" suggestions before. No matter what the changes are they wont PK they just want to get the benefits out of wilderness. Theres always reasons why its too hard and everyone else is cheating. By you initial post its clear you dont give a fuck about PKing but people being able to use more chars makes it harder for you to gather more pixels in a safe risk-free way which you feel entitled to.

//4 uniques vs 2uniques no multing. If the 4 are any good the 2 never ever have a chance with 4 people casting 1. Fuck that logic.

I will die, I don't care if I'm in wild or not. I did most skilling outside of wild. Still will. I expect to die in wild. I only said im a skiller cause NYx knows I won't fight a decent fight. I'll die. I was saying this whole thing on behalf of my team. So whatever. They're the ones who made the suggestions, I just voiced them. Keep commenting. Give the mods actual thoughts and suggestions. Cause that's what it was. A suggestion. Opinion. Don't agree with it, fine. At least give reasonable thoughts rather than bashing what I said.

There would be no economy on a server this small without the army of multi fishers, woodcutters, mob killers and miners.

Or I dunno do what other MMOs have done and actually just automate all Skilling so its 1 click instead of monotonous garbage?

~K!zL

Most other MMOS suck and for this reason, because its too easy. They have pay to win and care more about graphics than gameplay... What the hell is the point in skilling if its 1 click easy crap? How is that an achievement? This is exactly why we still play 20 year old games like RSC because most of us here come from a time when you had to actually earn your way and it was fun. The real RSC was extremely hard and thats truly why we all loved it, some of us just cant seem to understand that... Rates were already highly altered because people have jobs and kids now but If this server listened completely to the things you rant about, it wouldve died years ago.

Speak for your self I botted and the majority of people did. I hated anything involving skilling because of the stupid ass clicking.

Also that's rich considering they've listened to me the majority of my years here little boy. Get fkd and use veteran accounts then.

And they suck? Must be why WoW still has thousands online 24/7 but ok keep up your blinders.

~K!zL