+1 -- the bank loss is a big deal.

+1 to this, the idea for deadman mode is great and has bought in a few new players to rsc such as myself. The punishment for not been a veteran rsc player on Dmm is pretty harsh though. I am not a great pker so i thought maybe this mode might help, i've found though after 1 death you find yourself re-gearing again and again. People take advantage of that and search the small rsc map to make you drop more and more and the vets will always stay on top. There are like what 5-7 players tops that have any chance of enjoying this for what its for, while the others that are set behind can never catch up.

This is in no way a cry. Its just even some of the players that are at the top think this is pretty harsh. Anyway its been fun for what its worth but unless something is done no new player(new to dmm) is gonna enjoy dieing over and over.

-1 Honestly I don't see any reason to change this. It's not reducing world pk drasticly. It's alot of pk going on lol. I think it's promoting world pk since you get hungry for players bank and reducing their xp.

This would make the game regular mode with world pk. You guys can just play normal reg mode and walk up to wilderness instead

How exactly do you benefit from reducing someone's xp?

I never made one because of exp loss and bank loss. I've been following dmm for a few weeks now and I'd say without getting rid of the exp loss and bank its just not fun and too damn discouraging.

Sorry I'm not trying to retrain anything after dying.

~K!zL

Re-training the XP isn't really that hard - it's the bank loss that is making people quit.

What level have you got your DM to?  I agree at low levels, re-training isn't that bad and the bank loss is worse.  But lets look at 99's.  According to n0m's formula, the amount of xp you lose is somewhat dependent on the killer's level, but on average it's about 30%.  So if you're flats with 99 prayer/magic/ranged, lets assume you're protecting strength and prayer.  Now you get killed, you're down to 94 attack, defense, hits, magic, and range.  That's 20 million xp lost.  divide that by 3 because we have a 3x build-back rate for those skills, that's the equivalent of 6.6 million xp at normal rates you get to retrain.  And we haven't even started on trade skills yet.  If you have, say, 99 smith and 99 crafting protected, have fun working back 40+ million woodcut, firemaking, fishing, cooking, agility, etc.  Just because you died one time.  We're talking anywhere between 50-200 hours of work lost.  Doesn't really make me want to pk or be willing to stay and fight if I get jumped.

We already have a mode like this, just skip tutorial island and dont speak to anyone while on the island.

The point of deadman is to have all these things, maybe the formulas can be reworked, but deadman is for fast paced pking, not really for skilling. Talk to friends, find someone who is doing fletching or herblaw, or a skill youre not doing. Protect your main skill, while the protect theirs and work together. Save main things that you need in your top 10 slots. Weapon, armor, casts, arrows and food. Its not really meant for maxing the account. Personally, i think PvP should always be f2p on deadman, requires less slots for your good gear in bank. Deadman is just simply not meant for skilling and stock piling 1k super sets 1k dragon ammys, 200 rune sets, and 100k casts.

We already have a mode like this, just skip tutorial island and dont speak to anyone while on the island.

The point of deadman is to have all these things, maybe the formulas can be reworked, but deadman is for fast paced pking, not really for skilling. Talk to friends, find someone who is doing fletching or herblaw, or a skill youre not doing. Protect your main skill, while the protect theirs and work together. Save main things that you need in your top 10 slots. Weapon, armor, casts, arrows and food. Its not really meant for maxing the account. Personally, i think PvP should always be f2p on deadman, requires less slots for your good gear in bank. Deadman is just simply not meant for skilling and stock piling 1k super sets 1k dragon ammys, 200 rune sets, and 100k casts.

As far as I'm aware, regular characters can't world pk.  That's the point of the mode.  Currently, the xp and item loss is preventing world pk.  You can't deny that there wouldn't be more world pk'ing if we took away xp and bank loss.

Would you pk?

-1 he just wants all 99s

I must say he is right. People all trained countless times on many servers, yet people are starting anew for this special mode which is fun. But you shouldn't have to re-train and lose bank items whenever you die. It's getting odd, training again and again and again and agaiiiiin.