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I joined this server about a week ago and have been loving it since. I came for the nostalgia of rsc (and the droid client oof). There have been plenty of QOL improvements and features in this server that i enjoy a lot and i think the game is going in a good direction.

My one gripe though is the community getting used to what they are given and taking it for granted.

Iv seen so much complaining about how "this is too hard make it easier" or "these prices are too high the devs need to do something about it". What really gets at me is those talking about swordfish prices. I think the community just needs to deal with it. Are you too old and have kids etc a life to live and dont have time to make money and pk? Then either buy and sell SUBS or spend what time you do have making the money to go out and pk; there are multiple ways to make money and fast! Think this way, im new and didnt play OG classic so my game knowledge is tiny and yet im sustaining better than i thought i would be because the devs have put in so much work to already making the game super easy!

I want the devs to stay true to the game and not listen to all these people complaining. Make game changes based on whats best for the game not your current player base.  I heavily disagree with the free pk shop and if EZ scape updates like that keep coming into the game because of people complaining you are going to kill your game from a new players standpoint.

tldr: The game is already easy so devs don't fall into peer pressure from backlash, your community is just getting lazier. Batching is a game changer----Things like Free PK shop is a game ruiner.

Less EZ Scape more logical updates for those playing and those yet to join. The more you cater and change the game for your old players the less new players are going to want to play. (Example: Joining at a time pking is free because complainers and swordies are way more expensive than sharks was fucked but im rolling with it.)

PS. Take yanille and seers teleport off the charged dragon stone amulet and make teleport tabs useful again!

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Quit complaining. Free food was a good update for a change. It did not make the prices go lower. So quit complaining about it being a game ruiner.


Oprah:

Good call numb nuts, now the wilds more dead than ever. This is why the pkers shouldn't have an opinion. It's a skillers wild, the pkers are followers and always have been. They log in for 30 mins a day and if there isn't any pk it's more like 5 mins. Let the great ideas come from the people who play the game for hours.

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the irony of this thread

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Hungry Game said:

Quit complaining. Free food was a good update for a change. It did not make the prices go lower. So quit complaining about it being a game ruiner.

That's not the point my boy. The shop is an example of the devs submitting to their whiny player base. "Our players dont know how to make gold and cant afford to pk. BETTER MAKE IT FREE SO THESE PKERS SHUT UP"

If those same players spent the same amount of time fishing their own food or making money to outright buy supplies there would be no need for the shop. Wheres the integrity? wheres the accomplishment of "i just did all that work so now i get to reward myself by going out and pking noobs".

As for as my knowledge goes most of you guys are OG's to the real RSC and the switch to RS2 made everything easier and yall said fuck that. As did i when RS2 switched to EOC i said FUCK THAT.

Except now were on this server where you guys complain about grinding and that prices are too high when its soooooo easy to just go make the money.

The more the devs cater to you whiny boomers the more it will affect the small details of the rest of the game that can make a huge impact on economy before you even realize it.

Example: No p2p pking in rotation causing swordies to rocket above sharks. Because of this swordies are now "too expensive". Because of that we got the free pk shop. Because of that...this post.

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Quit complaining about complaining.

Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. This "taking it for granted" stuff is bullshit. We appreciate this server a lot and most of us pay a monthly subscription to support it financially. We don't always have to like and agree every decision the devs make, and some changes (or lack of change) can be frustrating, so complaining is perfectly fine.

For some reason you seem to think your opinion counts for more than everyone else's.

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Rockslide said:

Quit complaining about complaining.

Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. This "taking it for granted" stuff is bullshit. We appreciate this server a lot and most of us pay a monthly subscription to support it financially. We don't always have to like and agree every decision the devs make, and some changes (or lack of change) can be frustrating, so complaining is perfectly fine.

For some reason you seem to think your opinion counts for more than everyone else's.

Yes everyone does have a right to voice their opinion and i voiced mine and no i do not think that my opinion counts more than everyone else.

I suggest for people to stop complaining about these topics because they are avoidable by just playing the game and i feel that these people are pressuring the devs to fix their issues without thinking of the overall impact.

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Rockslide said:

Quit complaining about complaining.

Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. This "taking it for granted" stuff is bullshit. We appreciate this server a lot and most of us pay a monthly subscription to support it financially. We don't always have to like and agree every decision the devs make, and some changes (or lack of change) can be frustrating, so complaining is perfectly fine.

For some reason you seem to think your opinion counts for more than everyone else's.

Exactly.

And the only people who call other people "boys" and "kids" on the internet are boys and kids.

You dont like the update that didnt change the prices and was appreciated by most of the PKers and then you whine. Jesus. Its similar to a hypothetical situation where PKers started complaining about some pickaxe being too powerful or too weak.


Oprah:

Good call numb nuts, now the wilds more dead than ever. This is why the pkers shouldn't have an opinion. It's a skillers wild, the pkers are followers and always have been. They log in for 30 mins a day and if there isn't any pk it's more like 5 mins. Let the great ideas come from the people who play the game for hours.

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Hungry Game said:

Rockslide said:

Quit complaining about complaining.

Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. This "taking it for granted" stuff is bullshit. We appreciate this server a lot and most of us pay a monthly subscription to support it financially. We don't always have to like and agree every decision the devs make, and some changes (or lack of change) can be frustrating, so complaining is perfectly fine.

For some reason you seem to think your opinion counts for more than everyone else's.

Exactly.

And the only people who call other people "boys" and "kids" on the internet are boys and kids.

You dont like the update that didnt change the prices and was appreciated by most of the PKers and then you whine. Jesus. Its similar to a hypothetical situation where PKers started complaining about some pickaxe being too powerful or too weak.


I say boy because the point is going way over your head. Obviously too complex of an issue for your underdeveloped brain.

We take p2p out of rotation.
Swordies sky rocket.
The underdeveloped: "I DUN NO HOW TO MAK MUNEY"
Devs: "ugh these idiots wont shut up. just give them a free shop for a little bit maybe they will quite down".
Me an intellectual: "Money is so easy to make and iv only been playing for a week why are these boomers complaining about not being able to afford shit?!?!?!?"

Im just saying if theres an issue in the community there needs to be a more logical approach than to just make shit free to make people happy.

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sad said:

Hungry Game said:

Rockslide said:

Quit complaining about complaining.

Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. This "taking it for granted" stuff is bullshit. We appreciate this server a lot and most of us pay a monthly subscription to support it financially. We don't always have to like and agree every decision the devs make, and some changes (or lack of change) can be frustrating, so complaining is perfectly fine.

For some reason you seem to think your opinion counts for more than everyone else's.

Exactly.

And the only people who call other people "boys" and "kids" on the internet are boys and kids.

You dont like the update that didnt change the prices and was appreciated by most of the PKers and then you whine. Jesus. Its similar to a hypothetical situation where PKers started complaining about some pickaxe being too powerful or too weak.


I say boy because the point is going way over your head. Obviously too complex of an issue for your underdeveloped brain.

We take p2p out of rotation.
Swordies sky rocket.
The underdeveloped: "I DUN NO HOW TO MAK MUNEY"
Devs: "ugh these idiots wont shut up. just give them a free shop for a little bit maybe they will quite down".
Me an intellectual: "Money is so easy to make and iv only been playing for a week why are these boomers complaining about not being able to afford shit?!?!?!?"

Im just saying if theres an issue in the community there needs to be a more logical approach than to just make shit free to make people happy.

Theres an issue with you, Id say go see a shrink.


Oprah:

Good call numb nuts, now the wilds more dead than ever. This is why the pkers shouldn't have an opinion. It's a skillers wild, the pkers are followers and always have been. They log in for 30 mins a day and if there isn't any pk it's more like 5 mins. Let the great ideas come from the people who play the game for hours.

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sad said:

@Hungry Game

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There are people fishing all the time.  The main issue here is the removal of p2p from rotation.  That caused a huge increase in the demand for swordfish, and almost no demand for shark.  Therefore any shark for sale are a steal of a deal, and swordfish are sky high. :\

The fix is not to flood the market with free food, nor to add a shop with unlimited access at a rock bottom price.

p2p needs to be in rotation in order to stabilize the market.


This f2p only wild was requested, even demanded.  Now the consequences of that are coming to the surface. :\


Woops looks like i just found a reply from the dev that agrees with my opinion. Fuck im so wrong and dont know what im talking about.

LOL.


Oprah:

Good call numb nuts, now the wilds more dead than ever. This is why the pkers shouldn't have an opinion. It's a skillers wild, the pkers are followers and always have been. They log in for 30 mins a day and if there isn't any pk it's more like 5 mins. Let the great ideas come from the people who play the game for hours.

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Hungry Game said:

sad said:

Hungry Game said:

Exactly.

And the only people who call other people "boys" and "kids" on the internet are boys and kids.

You dont like the update that didnt change the prices and was appreciated by most of the PKers and then you whine. Jesus. Its similar to a hypothetical situation where PKers started complaining about some pickaxe being too powerful or too weak.


I say boy because the point is going way over your head. Obviously too complex of an issue for your underdeveloped brain.

We take p2p out of rotation.
Swordies sky rocket.
The underdeveloped: "I DUN NO HOW TO MAK MUNEY"
Devs: "ugh these idiots wont shut up. just give them a free shop for a little bit maybe they will quite down".
Me an intellectual: "Money is so easy to make and iv only been playing for a week why are these boomers complaining about not being able to afford shit?!?!?!?"

Im just saying if theres an issue in the community there needs to be a more logical approach than to just make shit free to make people happy.

Theres an issue with you, Id say go see a shrink.


@Hungry Game

Pepsi said:

There are people fishing all the time.  The main issue here is the removal of p2p from rotation.  That caused a huge increase in the demand for swordfish, and almost no demand for shark.  Therefore any shark for sale are a steal of a deal, and swordfish are sky high. :\

The fix is not to flood the market with free food, nor to add a shop with unlimited access at a rock bottom price.

p2p needs to be in rotation in order to stabilize the market.


This f2p only wild was requested, even demanded.  Now the consequences of that are coming to the surface. :\


Woops looks like i just found a reply from the dev that agrees with my opinion. Fuck im so wrong and dont know what im talking about.

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Says quit complaining makes post to complain.

I've got like 90m easily.  If I was to pk everyday all day I'd run out fast. You've got zero clue how much time everyone's put into this game over the years. There's no reason to not cater to BOTH parties here.



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KizL said:

Says quit complaining makes post to complain.


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The difference im complaining for the better future of the server. Not for what i want now with no regard on the impact like so many of you seem to do.

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KizL said:

Says quit complaining makes post to complain.


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The difference im complaining for the better future of the server. Not for what i want now with no regard on the impact like so many of you seem to do.

You still think your opinion is more important than everyone elses and are looking for a justification. Cut the crap, if anything this made a lot of people PK which is mandatory for a server not to die out.


Oprah:

Good call numb nuts, now the wilds more dead than ever. This is why the pkers shouldn't have an opinion. It's a skillers wild, the pkers are followers and always have been. They log in for 30 mins a day and if there isn't any pk it's more like 5 mins. Let the great ideas come from the people who play the game for hours.

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Hungry Game said:

sad said:

KizL said:

Says quit complaining makes post to complain.


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The difference im complaining for the better future of the server. Not for what i want now with no regard on the impact like so many of you seem to do.

You still think your opinion is more important than everyone elses and are looking for a justification. Cut the crap, if anything this made a lot of people PK which is mandatory for a server not to die out.

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Pepsi said:

There are people fishing all the time.  The main issue here is the removal of p2p from rotation.  That caused a huge increase in the demand for swordfish, and almost no demand for shark.  Therefore any shark for sale are a steal of a deal, and swordfish are sky high. :\

The fix is not to flood the market with free food, nor to add a shop with unlimited access at a rock bottom price.

p2p needs to be in rotation in order to stabilize the market.


This f2p only wild was requested, even demanded.  Now the consequences of that are coming to the surface. :\


Ill just leave this here...

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sad said:

Hungry Game said:

sad said:

The difference im complaining for the better future of the server. Not for what i want now with no regard on the impact like so many of you seem to do.

You still think your opinion is more important than everyone elses and are looking for a justification. Cut the crap, if anything this made a lot of people PK which is mandatory for a server not to die out.

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Pepsi said:

There are people fishing all the time.  The main issue here is the removal of p2p from rotation.  That caused a huge increase in the demand for swordfish, and almost no demand for shark.  Therefore any shark for sale are a steal of a deal, and swordfish are sky high. :\

The fix is not to flood the market with free food, nor to add a shop with unlimited access at a rock bottom price.

p2p needs to be in rotation in order to stabilize the market.


This f2p only wild was requested, even demanded.  Now the consequences of that are coming to the surface. :\


Ill just leave this here...

Lul thinking admins understand at all without any bias. You're new so it's all good.  After you've played a few years you'll get how repetitive and shitty fishing and cooking is.

They really should just be 1 click fill and 1 click cook.



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Lul thinking admins understand at all without any bias. You're new so it's all good.  After you've played a few years you'll get how repetitive and shitty fishing and cooking is.

They really should just be 1 click fill and 1 click cook.

Not really sure what you mean about the admins and bias but there you go; You can 1 click fill and batching already fixed your laziness issue with cooking.

If thats not good enough for you then level higher for more afk time or just play osrs or play the original RSC because you clearly dont know how good you guys have it with this server.

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sad said:

Lul thinking admins understand at all without any bias. You're new so it's all good.  After you've played a few years you'll get how repetitive and shitty fishing and cooking is.

They really should just be 1 click fill and 1 click cook.

Not really sure what you mean about the admins and bias but there you go; You can 1 click fill and batching already fixed your laziness issue with cooking.

If thats not good enough for you then level higher for more afk time or just play osrs or play the original RSC because you clearly dont know how good you guys have it with this server.

It's not 1 click fill. Every 10 levels does 1 extra fish. Its dumb and should just be fill with 1 click.

And I'd never play any of those shit ass games. RSC is the only mmo I'd ever play been playing since 2002.


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Idiot wants people to stop making suggestions in the suggestions forum.


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Just putting out there... This is my first any only reply to this thread... No reason to spam paste my reply to another thread.

We do not sit around and call our players idiots etc. Because they make suggestions. 
Most go on discord and we debate ideas out.  It's a lot easier.

Do we always do what they want? No, we do not.  However, sometimes their ideas work, and are used.
Sometimes we try them, and they fail, so get changed back.

The main objective here is to stay as true to rsc as we can, but to continue developing. We also consider, we aren't children anymore, and have less time to grind.

So, yes, at times free pk days are a good thing.