I personally love the idea of number 2 but that's because I a) prefer f2p so maybe a bit bias and b) have played a server before which had the same rules and while we all actually played there - it was amazing.

I still think Nyx's map is the best, screw the 1v1 zone lol west wildy literally has all the P2P stuff already, why not just make it permenantly P2P? Just stick some old ruins far west in lvl 13 wid, west of the chaos altar - people can recharge prayer at Chaos Altar if need be just like at normal Castle we have an altar. They have green dragons, the ranged guild, the red dragon isle which is all p2p orientated content anyway

^^ +1

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Chaos Altar if need be just like at normal Castle we have an altar. They have green dragons, the ranged guild, the red dragon isle which is all p2p orientated content anyway

Could even try and make and make chaos alter a bit better for a sort of p2p castle that side.

Chaos Altar if need be just like at normal Castle we have an altar. They have green dragons, the ranged guild, the red dragon isle which is all p2p orientated content anyway

Could even try and make and make chaos alter a bit better for a sort of p2p castle that side.

Yea tbh I actually meant Chaos alter and east of it, not west. Some ruins or a castle at the location of the chaos alter or even better east of it would be perfect, east of alter there's a huge open area from 13-1 wild which is perfect for castle PK'ing as we all know

Couldn't hurt giving it a shot right?

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Yes! just make 13 alter a bit better for a destination that side

Thoughts on this? (red = p2p permanently, else = f2p permanently) (only rotation would be gmage below the fence on east side)

https://i.imgur.com/gqiO6n1.png

Yes 100%. This caters to everyone and does it well, like Nyx said, perhaps try make the Chaos Alter a little more fancy in some way. People can still have the castle PKing level brackets - that's where everyyyyone PK's whether it's f2p or P2p (unless AFK killing or at Fort), just P2P would now have it's own ''castle'' and f2p has it's own castle. Nobody wants to go 50 wild on a low level account it's basically a death sentence every time

It is quite a big change though, should run polls, post this image in Discord a lot, gather opinions in-game from players and staff - fans of P2P and fans of F2P - I'm more than confident that this will be voted in and everyone will love the idea but a lot of ppl don't use forums/discord etc, definitely gather as much opinions as possible before implementing

Or just add it as a trial for a month, the best change for server that ever happened was cast timer yet so many were against it.

Make the Grave Yard 1/2 p2p half f2p. Could make for some crazy pking where people wear both f2p and p2p there. lol

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f2p Monday-Friday and p2p Saturday-Sunday. Fixed.

What exactly does that fix? Lol. (please elaborate) because that's literally the cycle already, just the days aren't set in stone. As it stands the cycle goes F2P,F2P,F2P,P2P(gmage),P2P and repeat - what exactly would be 'fixed' by making the least popular type of PKing set to the 2 days of the week where the server see's the highest volume of players?

I may have been drunk or high when I made that and mixed up the two, hahaha wow.

p2p Monday-Friday(Even Thursday so f2p can start Friday) and f2p Friday-Sunday.

No idea why I put p2p all week when I hate gmage.

When we doing this? Wilderness is dead on p2p days. Even with free rune lolz. Let's give those special people their own special people area they can be special in, but seriously all jokes / banter aside - it will maximize the amount of possible PKing and resources being used. Again, let's look at the pro's

1. People who made specific builds for p2p PKing wouldn't have their time devalued or GP wasted on quest items etc if P2P were only to be above 50+ wild

2. It would eliminate the fact some PKers simply refuse to log in on F2P days, giving them the chance to choose whether they want to PK f2p or p2p

3. It would eliminate the fact some PKers simply refuse to log in on P2P days, giving them the chance to choose whether they want to PK f2p or p2p, rather than forcing them. This is a real thing, players do boycott each type of PKing for various different reasons. Would you not rather them all on at once?

4. Peoples low - mid level p2p builds can still PK with that castle vibe (13 to 1 wild) without having to worry about getting 2 hit by someone 50 levels higher (see Billy's post, where he suggested p2p only 50+ wild or it being on a rotation and sometimes 50+ being F2P)

5. By giving people the choice to choose between the two you are maximizing the potential for online count, overall accounts in wilderness, resources from both types of PK'ing being used regularly every day (keeps skillers happy). What is not to love about maximizing player count?

Are there any con's? I would love to know them. I genuinely can't think of one. By doing this you literally cater to every possible person there is to cater to without pissing anybody off

We need a month trial of this ASAP. I promise it will work

make an Npc in edge that makes u p2p or f2p pker then make it so u have to be p2p enabled to att other p2p enabled chars and vice versa

All the p2p stuff is already on the east side,

I do think you need to re do the 13 altar before the change, make it a real destination, maybe rats next to altar? the ultimate 1 def trainer?

p2p isn't working, most popular pk atm is 40s and 50s and p2p is insta 3 hit on that.

The other problem with rotation is I don't want to regear loads of accounts, it's a real pain the in the arse and my accounts will login f2p gear on p2p rotation.

Rotation has always been a bad idea.